It’s not about perfection out of the box—it’s about learning to learn and growing through the process.
Dr. Donnell Butler is the Founder and President of Prelude, a nonprofit that partners with employers and schools to create work-based learning experiences, helping students from lower-income backgrounds gain professional skills, explore careers, and achieve economic freedom through paid internships. With over 20 years of experience, he has focused on improving college and career outcomes for underserved communities, previously serving as a dean at Franklin & Marshall College, where he co-led initiatives that significantly increased diversity and graduation rates. A first-generation college graduate from the South Bronx, Dr. Butler holds a B.A. from Franklin & Marshall and a Ph.D. from Princeton University. He serves on the board of the Relay Graduate School of Education and is a Pahara-Aspen Education Fellow.
Growing up in the South Bronx, combined with a love for learning and academic success, shaped Donnell’s path into the K-12 education world. Living abroad as an "army brat" (thanks to his stepfather's military service) exposed him to different cultures and educational systems. Donnell embraced his love for learning and was determined to create a better life. His mentors—teachers and other adults—guided him and his passion for education and mentorship eventually led him to shift from accounting to working in higher education, particularly at Franklin & Marshall College, where he focused on helping students from underrepresented backgrounds succeed.
One challenge newer generations face is the lack of early work experiences, and for both Ron and Donnell, many of the skills needed for success came from on-the-job experiences rather than formal education. That’s why Donnell is so passionate about teaching both employees and young people the value of combining education with real-world experience. He believes in the transformative power of this combination, which is why he founded Prelude—a nonprofit that provides paid work opportunities to high school students.
Skills like interpersonal communication, time management, and problem-solving can only truly be learned in a real-world context. Building supportive environments where students can learn, make mistakes, and grow is essential for their development and confidence. Let’s keep moving forward—let’s show them they have the power to change the world.
Show notes
🗽 EdLoc members and friends: Ron and Donnell share the same passion for sports.
02:20🪖 Donnell is originally from the South Bronx: He moved frequently and traveled the world until he was 10 years old.
04:55🏫 Learning in Department of Defense schools: being different but not shy to put in extra effort.
08:10👦🏾 His first beating was due to his success in school: building a path that would be different from working for the army.
11:00🏆 Being drawn to mentors and adults: double majoring in college in sociology and accounting.
14:30🧠 College access and success guru: all the amazing people who changed his mindset.
23:20🥅 Two-thirds of teenagers had a paid job in the eighties: today, most internships are unpaid, and there’s a lack of work-based learning experiences.
27:24💰 Ron’s experience as a pharmacy assistant for $4 an hour in 1988: The superpower of learning through trial and error.
32:54🤑 Structure and regime of working and learning: the power of a paycheck and developing young people.
43:40💎 RONdering: Understand kids and encourage mistakes—keep moving forward, just like babies learning to walk. Celebrate all the wins.
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